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Full Warner Interview: Challenges of Cybersecurity

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ROBBERS..THEY CAME WITH POLITICAL.DEMANDS..>> JOINING ME NOW IS DEMOCRATIC.SENATOR MARK WARNER OF VIRGINIA..HES, OF COURSE, THE CHAIR OF.THE SENATE INTELLIGENCE.COMMITTEE..SENATOR WARNER, WELCOME BACK TO.”MEET THE PRESS.”.THE FBI DIRECTOR, CHRISTOPHER.WRAY, IN A “WALL STREET JOURNAL”.INTERVIEW ESSENTIALLY INVOKED.9/11 IN HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE.ACE SYMMETRICAL GROUPS, THESE.CELLS..WE CALLED THEM TERRORIST CELLS.IN 2001 AND 2002..ARE THESE CYBER CRIMINALS.TERRORISTS?.>> CHUCK, LETS STEP BACK AND.LOOK AT THIS PROBLEM..WEVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CYBER.FOR A LONG TIME..FINALLY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS.STARTING TO WAKE UP TO THE.RAMIFICATIONS OF THESE ATTACKS..THERES GENERALLY BEEN TWO TYPES.OF CYBER INCIDENTS, ONE WHERE A.NATION STATE STEALS INFORMATION,.TWO, WHERE CYBER CRIMINALS COME.IN AND THREATEN TO SHUT DOWN A.SYSTEM AND DEMAND RANSOMWARE..WEVE SEEN THESE INDIVIDUAL.ATTACKS OF THESE PIPELINE.COMPANIES, FERRY COMPANIES, MEAT.PACKING COMPANIES..WHAT IM REALLY WORRIED ABOUT IS.IF WE SAW THE KIND OF MASSIVE,.ACROSS-THE-SYSTEM ATTACK THAT.TOOK PLACE LAST YEAR, THE SOLAR.WINDS ATTACK, THEY GOT INTO.18,000 DIFFERENT COMPANIES..IF THAT ATTACK HAD BEEN TO SHUT.DOWN THE SYSTEM, OUR ECONOMY.WOULD HAVE COME TO A HALT THE.WAY RUSSIA ATTACKED UKRAINE..WE OUGHT TO DO THREE THINGS..ONE, WE OUGHT TO PUT IN PLACE –.WE HAVE BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION.TO DO THIS — TO REQUIRE THAT,.WHEN COMPANIES GET ATTACKED,.THEY NOTIFY THE GOVERNMENT..THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT RIGHT.NOW..SECOND, WE DO NEED INTERNATIONAL.NORMS SO THAT WHEN CYBER GROUPS.OUT OF RUSSIA, BECAUSE THEYRE.NOT JUST ATTACKING US, THEY SHUT.DOWN THE IRISH HEALTH CARE.SYSTEM..WE NEED INTERNATIONAL NORMS..THIRD, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE.TRANSPARENCY..THERES GOING TO BE A DEBATE.ABOUT WHETHER THESE COMPANIES.SHOULD PAY RANSOMWARE..THERE OUGHT TO BE MORE.TRANSPARENCY IF A COMPANY DOES.PAY SO WE CAN GO AFTER THE BAD.GUYS..>> YOU PRE ANSWERED A COUPLE.QUESTIONS I HAVE..I WANT TO PICK UP ON THE LAST.POINT..SHOULD WE MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO PAY.RANSOMS?.MANY PEOPLE THINK THIS IS A.SIMPLE SOLUTION, RIGHT?.YOU DONT PAY THE RANSOMS, THE.ATTACKS WILL STOP COMING..>> WELL, I THINK THATS A DEBATE.WORTH HALVING..IM NOT SURE WHAT THE ANSWER IS.AT THIS POINT..THE ALTERNATIVE, IF YOU SHUT.DOWN A SYSTEM — AND IN THE CASE.OF COLONIAL PIPELINE, WE SAW,.EVEN AFTER THEY PAID THE RANSOM,.IT TOOK FIVE DAYS..BUT WHAT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE, AS.WE HAVE THAT DEBATE, LETS MAKE.SURE IF COMPANIES DO PAY,.THERES TRANSPARENCY TO THOSE.PAYMENTS..LAST YEAR I WORKED ON.LEGISLATION THAT BECAME LAW TO.TIGHTEN UP OUR ILLEGAL CASH.PAYMENTS, THE USE OF DUMMY.CORPORATIONS..AMERICA WAS, FRANKLY, NOT EVEN.AT INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS..WE NEED MORE TRANSPARENCY..RIGHT NOWWHATS HAPPENING AROUND.RANSOMWARE, NOT ONLY ARE THE.COMPANIES NOT REPORTING THEYRE.ATTACKED, BUT THEYRE NOT.REPORTING THE RANSOM WEAR.PAYMENTS..>> I WANT TO GET TO THE.RANSOMWARE PAYMENT IN A SECOND..YOU WANT TO MAKE IT BASICALLY.ILLEGAL TO NOT REPORT A WROONRAN.WEAR ATTACK IF YOURE A COMPANY.BASED IN THE UNITED STATES..WHAT ABOUT A STEP FURTHER WHERE.YOU MANDATE A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF.SECURITY..IF YOU WANT TO BE A DEFENSE.CONTRACTOR, YOU HAVE TO PROVE.YOUR ABILITY TO HANDLE.CLASSIFIED INFORMATION?.YOU KNOW THIS VERY WELL..THATS HOW COLONIAL HAS TO BE.TREATED, GBS, ANYBODY WHO.ESSENTIALLY SELLS GOODS AND.SERVICES IN THE UNITED STATES..>> CHUCK, HERE IS THE CHALLENGE..WE NEED HIGHER CYBERSECURITY.STANDARDS..THERE OUGHT TO BE PENALTIES..MANY OF US REMEMBER A FEW YEARS.BACK WHEN EQUIFAX LOST ALL OF.OUR INFORMATION TO THE CHINESE..THEY WERE TOTALLY NEGLIGENT..THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME LEVEL OF.LIABILITY FOR COMPANIES THAT.DONT HIT THESE STANDARDS..THE TRUTH IS, WHEN YOU HAVE A.TIER ONE ADVERSARY LIKE RUSSIA.OR CHINA, NOT NECESSARILY CYBER.CRIMINALS, BUT A TIER ONE.ADVOCACY, ITS TOUGH TO 100%.PERFECT ALL THE TIME..THATS WHY, IF WE HAVE AN.INCIDENT REPORTING REQUIREMENT.MID ATTACK, GIVE THE COMPANY.SOME LIMITED LIABILITY.PROTECTION..THAT NEEDS TO COME INTO THE.GOVERNMENT, BUT ALSO SHARE WITH.THE PRIVATE SECTOR..MICROSOFT, AMAZON, THE CLOUD.PROVIDERS, THE OTHER.CYBERSECURITY COMPANIES..WE NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC-PRIVATE.RESPONSE TEAM TO THIS, AND.THATS GOING TO REQUIRE THAT.MANDATORY REPORTING..>> LOOK, THERES ANOTHER IDEA.THATS OUT THERE..SIMPLY THIS, IN THE “WALL STREET.JOURNAL,” BAN CRYPTOCURRENCY TO.FIGHT RANSOMWARE..THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS,.WITHOUT THE ABILITY OF THE.ANONYMITY OF CRYPTO, WE WOULD.NOT HAVE THIS INTENSE SITUATION.NOW..I KNOW HOW POPULAR IT IS..THERES A RAVE GOING DOWN IN.MIAMI THIS WEEKEND FOR PEOPLE.WANTING CRYPTO..BUT CRYPTOS POPULARITY IS ITS.ANONYMITY..IT SEEMS AS IF WHY PEOPLE LIKE.IS THEY GET TO HIDE WHERE THEIR.MONEY CAME FROM..IT SOUNDS LIKE AN ILLEGAL.ENTERPRISE TO ME..>> CHUCK, IVE GOT A LOT OF.QUESTIONS ABOUT CRYPTO..THERES GOOD THINGS COMING OUT.OF THE TECHNOLOGY, BUT WERE.SEEING SOME OF THE DARK.UNDERBELLY..THATS WHY IM FOCUSING MORE ON.TRANCE PIERN SEE..THE TRUTH IS, THERE ARE WAYS WE.CAN BREAK THROUGH SKOM OF THESE.SYSTEMS..IF WE DONT HAVE — IF A COMPANY.IS PAYING, IF THERES NOT SOME.TRANSPARENCY SO THAT PAYMENT,.THE BAD GUYS WILL SIMPLY FIND.ANOTHER WAY TO HIDE IT..THIS IS AN AREA WHERE FRANKLY,.AGAIN, OUR COMPANY HAS BEEN.BEHIND THE INTERNATIONAL NORMS..WE GOT BETTER ON BIPARTISAN.LEGISLATION LAST YEAR, BUT THIS.DEBATE ABOUT CRYPTO AND.RANSOMWARE IS JUST STARTING..THATS WHY IN THE MEANTIME LETS.PUT IN PLACE THESE TRANSPARENCY.REQUIREMENTS..>> ONE OTHER IDEA OUT THERE IS.ABOUT GOING MORE ON THE.OFFENSIVE AGAINST RUSSIA FOR.BEING A SAFE HARBOR AND DOING.WHAT THEY DID..I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING.HERE..I HOPE YOU CAN SEE THIS GRAPHIC..THESE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS.THE UNITED STATES HAS TRIED TO.CONFRONT RUSSIAN AGGRESSION.GOING TO 2014..EJECTED THEM FROM THE G7, ITS.NOT THE G8 ANYMORE..PLENTY OF SANCTIONS..THERE HAVE BEEN IMPORT.RESTRICTIONS..WEVE EXPELLED DIPLOMATS..WEVE SEIZED THEIR ASSETS..WEVE HAD INDICTMENTS..NONE OF IT HAS STOPPED HIS.BEHAVIOR..WHAT WOULD IT TAKE, DO YOU.THINK, TO DURR TAIL PUTINS.BEHAVIOR?.>> TWO THINGS, CHUCK..ONE, I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE.THE ABILITY TO USE SOME OF OUR.OFFENSIVE CAPABILITIES..WE HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB ON.THAT..IF WE LOOK AT OUR ABILITY TO CUT.BACK ON SOME OF THE RUSSIAN.ELECTION INTERFERENCE, THAT WAS.BECAUSE WE WERE WILLING TO PUNCH.BACK..BUT WHAT WE ALSO NEED, AND THIS.IS WHY I SAY WE NEED THE LEVEL.OF INTERNATIONAL NORMS SO THAT A.COUNTRY LIKE RUSSIA WOULD KNOW,.IF THEY ARE HARBORING CYBER.CRIMINALS AND YOURE SHUTTING.DOWN A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, FOR.EXAMPLE, THE WAY THE CYBER.CRIMINALS DID IN IRELAND.RECENTLY, THERE NEEDS TO BE.INTERNATIONAL REPERCUSSIONS, NOT.SIMPLY ONE-OFF, THE UNITED.STATES ACTING ALONE..THATS WHY PRESIDENT BIDEN GOING.AND RALLYING THE DEMOCRACIES AT.THE G7 MEETING IS SO IMPORTANT..>> SENATOR MARK WARNER, ILL.

29 Comments

  1. My own strength failed me, friends and family turned there backs on me, but God stood by me, he never let me down. Dear God I can't imagine living life without you.

  2. If you pay for criminal behavior it will only escalate. If a country sanctions hacking, then we need to return the favor ten times over.

  3. Smart people think ahead and plan for a cyber attack and they are not getting the trouble of paying ransom. Stupid people take risk and chance their future to Russian CyberVikings

  4. The smiling astronomy descriptively attach because friday comparably soak until a apathetic mandolin. abusive, alike copy

  5. Number one “challenge” Joe Biden and family have made a king’s ransom off Putin, Xi Jinping and all the bad players DOING THE HACKING!! LOL

  6. Russia is number 5 in hacker against the US, FIFTH!
    China is number one. TURKEY hacks us more than Russia but no MSM Turkey, Turkey, Turkey.

  7. Wow, chuck obviously doesn’t know anything about crypto currency’s. They can’t be stopped or banned because they are decentralized and no government has control over them.

  8. All this talk with all these people in government about Cybersecurity and none of them have not even a clue about computers. Its ridiculously simple.. if your network is being hacked… disconnect its external global networking capabilities. Literally unplug it from the web!!! Make such sensitive infrastructure's a closed loop system. No one can hack in because theirs simply no in-point connecting to an external network. it CRAZY simple. but these people dont want to work that way. and theirs absolutely no reason for such high level infrastructures to be online as such. a closed loop system doesn't mean no one can get in rathe only by way of local access, direct contact with its terminal points. why are these systems given global access to begin with! If the people that set them up were that dumb they need to be hacked!!. Also.. i guarantee you this stuff is running on windows. or other microsoft based enterprised products. all of which anyone can learn the in and outs at your local library. these systems should be running on proprietary operating systems. NOT DOS or WINDOWS!!! which make no mistake 90% are. again stupid beyond belief. No one can hack into a system if theyre programs cant understand the programming language of a foreign language OS. EVEN THE MOVIE JOHN WICK understood this premise by having their whole underground society running on vintage commodore 64 basic (low tech).. WHO"S running anything on commodore basic!!??? NO ONE!! as such no one can hack their systems. No obviously im not suggesting such a move, but the concept is very much valid.

  9. ALL COUNTRIES ARE HOSTAGE!
    It's time to install and unite and work together to put CYBER POLICE INTERPOL AGENCIES with our allies all-over the world and catch this culprit.

  10. What does it take to curtail Putin's Behavior? I think we need to start limited above-ground Atomic Testing again.

  11. NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE
    Sergeant Robert Justin Alford green where is my two daughters KAREE and JAHMELA and their 7 children and what have you done to them.

  12. you can just trace the payment. No Chucky, we can't make it ''illegal" to pay bc then 1. no tracing of payment, 2. not all companies have a way of getting back into their system otherwise.

  13. You would have to tie crypto to the usual currency. There is no other way. Right now its the worst of both worlds.

  14. Increase the cyber DEFENSE. Stop with this idiotic cyber offence BS. It will NOT work. You cannot have a working economy when everyone is constantly disrupting eachother systems!! IREALAND should do the same. as should everyone else.

  15. Stop blaming Russia for cyber attacks when it is US pimply vegan college kids.

    Do you ever get up in the morning and wash yourself in oil? then go boil some eggs in oil? then drink a cup of oil?

    Cyber attacks are the new warfare so will US weapons, vehicles and battleships now be sold as scrap metal?

    Humans drink water not oil, humans eat meat and veggies not gun turrets and bullets.

  16. I published research on CT in 2010 and ppl thought I was a conspiracy nut for talking about vulnerabilities of the US power grid and water supply.
    Obama And trumps didn’t do enough to protect us.

  17. Hey everyone we all need some humor. So please watch till the end until it reveals how American Whitehat hackers can defend America. Watch from the 1 hr and 40 min. mark. The punchline comes at the end and then you can let me know how hard you laughed. It starts off oddly but then really gets you going. Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtN_YGlVULA

  18. Malcolm Nance has warned us of FSB for ~10 years while we dithered or listened to DJT. Send the message! “Knock knock!”

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