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LEMIER AND FORMER DEMOCRATIC SENATOR CLAIRE McCASKILL SENATOR CLAIRE McCASKILL

DR WEN, LET ME START WITH YOU, DR WEN, LET ME START WITH YOU, I SAID IN THE LAST HOUR I I SAID IN THE LAST HOUR I THOUGHT DR FAUCI SORT OF FIRE THOUGHT DR FAUCI SORT OF FIRE HOSED EVERYONE WATCHES WITH HOSED EVERYONE WATCHES WITH UNINTERRUPTED WITH FACTS AND UNINTERRUPTED WITH FACTS AND TRUTHS, THEY STILL VERY TRUTHS, THEY STILL VERY FRIGHTENING WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF FRIGHTENING WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE STOP THE MITIGATION EFFORTS, WE STOP THE MITIGATION EFFORTS, STOP SOCIAL DISTANCING, STOP STOP SOCIAL DISTANCING, STOP DOING ANY OF THE THINGS THAT DOING ANY OF THE THINGS THAT FEELS LIKE THERE’S STILL A PUSH FEELS LIKE THERE’S STILL A PUSH AND PULL WHEN THE PRESIDENT AND PULL WHEN THE PRESIDENT TALKS

TALKS >> YEAH, I MEAN, IT’S CLEAR >> YEAH, I MEAN, IT’S CLEAR ABOUT WHAT HE’S SAYING BECAUSE ABOUT WHAT HE’S SAYING BECAUSE IT’S ENTIRELY BASED ON SCIENCE IT’S ENTIRELY BASED ON SCIENCE AND EVIDENCE AND EVIDENCE NOTHING ABLE THIS VIRUS HAS NOTHING ABLE THIS VIRUS HAS CHANGED CHANGED

WE DON’T HAVE A CURE WE DON’T HAVE A CURE WE DON’T HAVE A VACCINE WE DON’T HAVE A VACCINE WHAT’S KEEPING THE VIRUS IN WHAT’S KEEPING THE VIRUS IN CHECK IS SOCIAL DISTANCING AND CHECK IS SOCIAL DISTANCING AND WHAT DR

FAUCI SAID TODAY IS WHAT DR FAUCI SAID TODAY IS THAT IF WE LET UP ON SOCIAL THAT IF WE LET UP ON SOCIAL DISTANCING, THEN WITH ARE GOING DISTANCING, THEN WITH ARE GOING TO SEE AN UPTICK IN THE NUMBER TO SEE AN UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF CASES OF CASES IDEALLY, THE TIME THAT THE IDEALLY, THE TIME THAT THE SHELTER IN PLACE THE LOCKDOWNS SHELTER IN PLACE THE LOCKDOWNS HAVE BOUGHT US IS THE TIME TO HAVE BOUGHT US IS THE TIME TO BUILD UP OUR PUBLIC HEALTH BUILD UP OUR PUBLIC HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE, THE TESTING, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE TESTING, THE TRACING TO CONTROL THE NEW CASES TRACING TO CONTROL THE NEW CASES THAT WILL ARISE THAT WILL ARISE

BUT THE PROBLEM IS, WE HAVE BUT THE PROBLEM IS, WE HAVE SQUANDERED THAT TIME SQUANDERED THAT TIME WE DON’T HAVE THOSE CAPABILITIES WE DON’T HAVE THOSE CAPABILITIES IN PLACE IN PLACE THE CONSEQUENCES ARE THE CONSEQUENCES ARE PREDICTABLE

PREDICTABLE TO HIS POINT, WE’RE GOING TO SEE TO HIS POINT, WE’RE GOING TO SEE THIS NEEDLESS SUFFERING, THIS NEEDLESS SUFFERING, NEEDLESS DEATH BECAUSE WE ARE NEEDLESS DEATH BECAUSE WE ARE OPENING TOO SOON AND AS A RESULT OPENING TOO SOON AND AS A RESULT WE’RE GOING TO SEE THE WE’RE GOING TO SEE THE CONSEQUENCES CONSEQUENCES >> YOU KNOW, CLAIRE, THERE WAS >> YOU KNOW, CLAIRE, THERE WAS SOMETHING SAD FOR ME LISTENING SOMETHING SAD FOR ME LISTENING TO DR FAUCI, BECAUSE I LISTENED TO DR

FAUCI, BECAUSE I LISTENED TO HIM FEELING LIKE MAYBE HE TO HIM FEELING LIKE MAYBE HE MADE THOSE ARGUMENTS PRIVATELY MADE THOSE ARGUMENTS PRIVATELY IN THE SITUATION ROOM OR WHERE IN THE SITUATION ROOM OR WHERE THE CORONAVIRUS TASK FORCE MEETS THE CORONAVIRUS TASK FORCE MEETS AND HE HADN’T PREVAILED AND AND HE HADN’T PREVAILED AND AFTER MAKING THOSE ARGUMENTS IN AFTER MAKING THOSE ARGUMENTS IN THE ROOM BEHIND CLOSED SCENES THE ROOM BEHIND CLOSED SCENES AND SEEING PRESIDENT TRUMP AND SEEING PRESIDENT TRUMP TWEET, LIBERATE WITH VIRGINIA, TWEET, LIBERATE WITH VIRGINIA, ALL HE HAS LEFT IS TO TELL THE ALL HE HAS LEFT IS TO TELL THE TRUTH BEFORE CONGRESS TRUTH BEFORE CONGRESS WHAT DID YOU THINK WATCHING WHAT DID YOU THINK WATCHING TODAY TODAY >> WELL, I MEAN, YOU CAN TELL >> WELL, I MEAN, YOU CAN TELL THIS IS A GUY WHO’S SO STEEPED THIS IS A GUY WHO’S SO STEEPED IN SCIENCE AND DATA, THAT HE IS IN SCIENCE AND DATA, THAT HE IS GOING TO REALLY KEEP HIS GOING TO REALLY KEEP HIS BLINDERS ON AND STAY ON THE BLINDERS ON AND STAY ON THE SCIENCE AND DATA

SCIENCE AND DATA I THOUGHT WHEN RAND PAUL TRIED I THOUGHT WHEN RAND PAUL TRIED TO TAKE A SWIPE AT HIM I THOUGHT TO TAKE A SWIPE AT HIM I THOUGHT HE HANDLED IT REALLY WELL HE HANDLED IT REALLY WELL HE SAID I KNOW I’M NOT THE END HE SAID I KNOW I’M NOT THE END ALL ALL

BUT MY THING IS PUBLIC HEALTH BUT MY THING IS PUBLIC HEALTH MY THING IS SCIENCE MY THING IS SCIENCE MY THING IS DATA

MY THING IS DATA I’M GOING TO BE OFFERING THAT I’M GOING TO BE OFFERING THAT INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE WHO INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE THE HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE THE DECISIONS DECISIONS EVERY TIME HE’S ALLOWED TO TALK, EVERY TIME HE’S ALLOWED TO TALK, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PRESIDENT IS ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PRESIDENT IS NOT POPPING UP OVER HIS SHOULDER NOT POPPING UP OVER HIS SHOULDER EVERY TEN MINUTES, SOMETIMES EVERY TEN MINUTES, SOMETIMES DIRECTLY CONTRADICTING WHAT HE’S DIRECTLY CONTRADICTING WHAT HE’S SAYING, HE DOES A MASTERFUL JOB SAYING, HE DOES A MASTERFUL JOB

THAT’S WHY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT’S WHY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TRUST HIM AND DON’T TRUST TRUMP TRUST HIM AND DON’T TRUST TRUMP WHEN IT COMES TO ALL OF THIS WHEN IT COMES TO ALL OF THIS INFORMATION INFORMATION >> YOU RAISED THIS EXCHANGE WITH >> YOU RAISED THIS EXCHANGE WITH RAND PAUL RAND PAUL LET ME PLAY IT

LET ME PLAY IT >> I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE A >> I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF HUMILITY IN OUR LITTLE BIT OF HUMILITY IN OUR BELIEF THAT WE KNOW WHAT’S BEST BELIEF THAT WE KNOW WHAT’S BEST WITH THE ECONOMY WITH THE ECONOMY AS MUCH AS I RESPECT YOU DR AS MUCH AS I RESPECT YOU DR

FAUCI, YOU’RE NOT THE END ALL FAUCI, YOU’RE NOT THE END ALL >> WE DON’T KNOW EVERYTHING >> WE DON’T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS VIRUS ABOUT THIS VIRUS WE BETTER BE CAREFUL WE BETTER BE CAREFUL PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO CHILDREN

CHILDREN THE MORE AND MORE WE’RE THE MORE AND MORE WE’RE LEARNING, WE CAN SEE WHAT THE LEARNING, WE CAN SEE WHAT THE VIRUS CAN DO VIRUS CAN DO I THINK WE BETTER BE CAREFUL IF I THINK WE BETTER BE CAREFUL IF WE’RE NOT CAVALIER IN THINKING WE’RE NOT CAVALIER IN THINKING THAT CHILDREN ARE COMPLETELY THAT CHILDREN ARE COMPLETELY IMMUNE TO THE EFFECTS IMMUNE TO THE EFFECTS

AGAIN, YOU’RE RIGHT IN THE AGAIN, YOU’RE RIGHT IN THE NUMBERS THAT CHILDREN IN GENERAL NUMBERS THAT CHILDREN IN GENERAL DO MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN THE DO MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN THE ADULTS AND THE ELDERLY ADULTS AND THE ELDERLY I’M VERY CAREFUL AND HOPEFULLY I’M VERY CAREFUL AND HOPEFULLY HUMBLE IN KNOWING THAT I DON’T HUMBLE IN KNOWING THAT I DON’T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS DISEASE AND THAT’S WHY I’M VERY DISEASE AND THAT’S WHY I’M VERY RESERVED IN MAKING BROAD RESERVED IN MAKING BROAD PREDICTIONS PREDICTIONS >> CLAIRE McCASKILL, THAT WAS >> CLAIRE McCASKILL, THAT WAS THE EXCHANGE YOU POINTED OUT

THE EXCHANGE YOU POINTED OUT >> CHILDREN CAME UP OVER AND >> CHILDREN CAME UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN OVER AGAIN KUDOS TO SENATOR CASSIDY, HE KUDOS TO SENATOR CASSIDY, HE BROUGHT UP THE PROBLEM THAT’S BROUGHT UP THE PROBLEM THAT’S NOW SURFACING ABOUT THESE NOW SURFACING ABOUT THESE SYMPTOMS IN CHILDREN, BUT ONE OF SYMPTOMS IN CHILDREN, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT TODAY THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT TODAY THAT WAS STARTLING WAS THERE THAT WAS STARTLING WAS THERE DOESN’T SEEM TO BE A CLEAR DOESN’T SEEM TO BE A CLEAR ANSWER ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE ANSWER ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CHILDREN ARE GOING TO BE CHILDREN ARE GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE SAFETY PHASE OF INCLUDED IN THE SAFETY PHASE OF THE VACCINE TESTING THE VACCINE TESTING

THEY’RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO THEY’RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER THIS VACCINE TO ADMINISTER THIS VACCINE TO CHILDREN IF THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN IF THE SAFETY OF THE VACCINE HASN’T BEEN TESTED ON VACCINE HASN’T BEEN TESTED ON CHILDREN CHILDREN THE FACT THAT THE FDA THE FACT THAT THE FDA COMMISSIONER COULDN’T ANSWER COMMISSIONER COULDN’T ANSWER THAT QUESTION I WAS STUNNED BY THAT QUESTION I WAS STUNNED BY THAT THAT THE OTHER THING, NICOLLE, JUST THE OTHER THING, NICOLLE, JUST AN INDICTMENT OF THE CDC WAS AN INDICTMENT OF THE CDC WAS THEIR INABILITY TO SAY WHEN THEY THEIR INABILITY TO SAY WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO POST THE WERE GOING TO POST THE GUIDELINES ON TESTING FOR GUIDELINES ON TESTING FOR REOPENING THE ECONOMY

REOPENING THE ECONOMY WHAT ARE THEY DOING? WHAT ARE THEY DOING? I MEAN, WHAT COULD BE MORE I MEAN, WHAT COULD BE MORE IMPORTANT? IMPORTANT? THESE STATES ARE OPENING, THESE THESE STATES ARE OPENING, THESE LOCALITIES ARE OPENING AS WE LOCALITIES ARE OPENING AS WE SPEAK WITH ABSOLUTELY NO SPEAK WITH ABSOLUTELY NO GUIDANCE AND THE HEAD OF CDC GUIDANCE AND THE HEAD OF CDC SAID, WELL, HAVE YOUR STATE CALL SAID, WELL, HAVE YOUR STATE CALL ME ME WHAT’S ONE THAT? WHAT’S ONE THAT? THAT’S JUST BIZARRE THAT’S JUST BIZARRE

>> I WANT TO COME BACK TO DR >> I WANT TO COME BACK TO DR WEN ON THE KIDS WEN ON THE KIDS WE’RE ALL PARENTS HERE

WE’RE ALL PARENTS HERE JONATHAN, CAN YOU TAKE A STAB AT JONATHAN, CAN YOU TAKE A STAB AT WHAT’S GOING ON AT THE CDC? WHAT’S GOING ON AT THE CDC? THEY HAD A MODEL THAT WAS THEY HAD A MODEL THAT WAS SHEFFIELD BY THE WHITE HOUSE SHEFFIELD BY THE WHITE HOUSE IT MADE INTO NEWS ORGANIZATIONS IT MADE INTO NEWS ORGANIZATIONS

THERE’S A CONSTANT THEME, THERE’S A CONSTANT THEME, DISAGREEMENTS AND CLASHES WITH DISAGREEMENTS AND CLASHES WITH THIS WHITE HOUSE ARE SIMPLY THIS WHITE HOUSE ARE SIMPLY SHELVING THE DATA WHEN IT MAKES SHELVING THE DATA WHEN IT MAKES ITS WAY TO 1600 PENNSYLVANIA OF ITS WAY TO 1600 PENNSYLVANIA OF AVENUE AVENUE >> THAT’S RIGHT, MY COLLEAGUES >> THAT’S RIGHT, MY COLLEAGUES AT THE AP HAVE DONE TERRIFIC AT THE AP HAVE DONE TERRIFIC WORK UNEARTHING THESE DOCUMENTS WORK UNEARTHING THESE DOCUMENTS FROM THE CDC, THAT WERE FROM THE CDC, THAT WERE TRANSMITTED TO THE WEST WING, TRANSMITTED TO THE WEST WING, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, JARED THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, JARED KUSHNER AND CHIEF OF STAFF MARK KUSHNER AND CHIEF OF STAFF MARK MEADOWS AND YET HAVEN’T PUT INTO MEADOWS AND YET HAVEN’T PUT INTO PRACTICE PRACTICE INDEED SHELVED

INDEED SHELVED YOU’RE RIGHT, I FELT LIKE DR YOU’RE RIGHT, I FELT LIKE DR FAUCI JUST POURED A LOT OF COLD FAUCI JUST POURED A LOT OF COLD WATER ON WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS WATER ON WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN TRYING TO PUSH IN THE LAST BEEN TRYING TO PUSH IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS IN PARTICULAR WITH FEW WEEKS IN PARTICULAR WITH THIS PUSH, THIS URGING FOR THE THIS PUSH, THIS URGING FOR THE STATES TO REOPEN THEIR STATES TO REOPEN THEIR ECONOMIES ECONOMIES

HE DIDN’T DO POLITICALLY, HE HE DIDN’T DO POLITICALLY, HE NEVER USED THE WORDS THE NEVER USED THE WORDS THE PRESIDENT’S WRONG PRESIDENT’S WRONG HE SORT OF SUGGESTED THAT THIS HE SORT OF SUGGESTED THAT THIS SEPTEMBER MAY BE FAR TOO SOON SEPTEMBER MAY BE FAR TOO SOON FOR SCHOOLS PARTICULARLY FOR SCHOOLS PARTICULARLY UNIVERSITIES TO REOPEN, TO DO UNIVERSITIES TO REOPEN, TO DO THE NECESSARY, SAFE SOCIAL THE NECESSARY, SAFE SOCIAL DISTANCING DISTANCING WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEATH COUNT

WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEATH COUNT THE OFFICIAL TALLY IS OVER THE OFFICIAL TALLY IS OVER 81,000 OR MORE AND DR FAUCI 81,000 OR MORE AND DR FAUCI SAID HE BELIEVED IT WAS SAID HE BELIEVED IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THAT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THAT

WHICH STANDS IN STARK CONTRAST WHICH STANDS IN STARK CONTRAST WITH THE PRESIDENT WHO PUBLICLY WITH THE PRESIDENT WHO PUBLICLY HAS QUESTIONED THE SOME, BUT HAS QUESTIONED THE SOME, BUT PRIVATELY A LOT, HE SAID IT’S PRIVATELY A LOT, HE SAID IT’S OVERINFLATED OVERINFLATED WHAT DR FAUCI SAID THE EXACT WHAT DR FAUCI SAID THE EXACT OPPOSITE

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