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11/05/19 Council Committees: Convention, Tourism & Public Entertainment Facilities

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FACILITIES COMMITTEE WE HAVE ONE THING ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN SLUDGE IS HERE AND HE'S ROUNDING UP MORE PEOPLE BUT- TWENTY NINETEEN DASH FOR COUNSELING SLEDGE AMENDS CHAPTER SIX POINT- FOR THE MEASURE KIND OF LAWS TO PROHIBIT ADVERTISING A MOVE

A SECOND SECOND MISTER BOWMAN WHO WOULD YOU GO OUT TURN RANGEL MISTER MORE COMING YEP I JUST NEED A QUORUM IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE

YEAH SURE I AM THERE NOW WE ACTUALLY SO TO REITERATE WE'RE ON BILL NUMBER TWENTY NINETEEN DASH FORMER COUNCILMAN SLIDE GERMANS CHAPTER SIX POINT FOR THE MAJOR CODE OF LAWS TO PROHIBIT AERIAL ADVERTISING I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCIL SLUDGE YES SO BRIEF EXPLANATION HERE SO IN RECENT MONTHS WE'VE EXPERIENCED SORT OF LOW FLYING PLANES ESSENTIALLY CARRYING- TRAILING BANNERS ON THEM- IT APPEARS THAT THEY TEND TO SHOW- TYPICALLY FOR EVENTS LIKE BALLGAMES OR TITANS GAMES BUT ALSO FOR FESTIVALS ARE GOING DOWNTOWN RAMADI HAVING ISSUES OCCURRING IS NO MATTER WHAT TIME THE FESTIVAL OR EVENT IS A POP UP IN THE SKY

IN THE MORNING AND I'VE GOT SOME NEWS FROM WHEN IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD JUST SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS SOMETIMES SOMETIMES THOUGH THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD IS BECAUSE THE FAA HAS ACTUALLY SAID NEW U S PRINTERS YOU SPRING COURT RULING IS SAYS LOCAL STATE JURISDICTIONS

ACTUALLY HAVE THE JURISDICTION OF THIS- F A SEEDS TO THEM THE AUTHORITY TO SAY WHETHER IT IS OR NOT THERE'S A CASE INVOLVING HONOLULU WHERE THEY HAD A LOCAL ORDINANCE REGARDING IN THAT CASE SINCE THE SPRING COURSE PRETTY COURT RULED

F A C TO THE LOCALS BROUGHT FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION

I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT WITH THE CDC FOLKS BUT- I DID TALK WITH IN AA THEREFORE TO FORTY A FEW WEEKS AGO- MISTER HALL HE HAD ASKED ME TO FOR IT I DID THEY WERE GETTING BACK TO ME THEY KNOW THEY DON'T COME OUT TO BE IN A THEY WERE CHECKING TO SEE IF THEY COME OUT OF TUNE I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM MISTER OLSON SO

INSTEAD OF RESTRICTING ALL THE WAY IS IT

POSSIBLE TO RESTRICT TIMES BECAUSE I GET SEVEN IN THE MORNING BUT- BUT NOONE OR TEN A M OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT YOU DON'T RESPOND YOU KNOW YOU TAKE THAT FREE SPEECH AWAY AND THAT WHATEVER YOU KNOW

SO I DIDN'T CHECK FOR LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING FIRST KNOWN ISSUE IT'S NOT A FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S REGARDING THE TIE IT'S THE SAME WAY WHEN WE REGULATE SIDEWAYS OR APPEARANCE OF BILLBOARDS OR THINGS OF THAT MATTER- I THOUGHT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT CUSTOMER- TRUTHFULLY I THINK THIS PARTICULAR FORM HAS VERY LITTLE VALUES PEOPLE- IT PROMOTES

NOISE AND AIR POLLUTION AS IT GOES THROUGH AND IT DOESN'T REALLY PRESENT AND I WAS SO CLOSE TONIGHT IT IS HARD TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT IS BEING ADVERTISED- AND SO IT TO ME IS NOT OF A REPUBLIC GOOD IT DOESN'T INFRINGE ON ANY FIRST AMENDMENT RIHTS AND IT HAS BEEN PUT FORTH

BY THE SUPREME COURT I FELT LIKE WE HAD WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON IN THE CITY WITH A LOT OF IMPACT WHEN IT COMES TO TOURISM BUT IN A GOOD SOME OF THE NOT SO GOOD THIS ONE SEEMS TO ME TO FALL IN THE- KIND OF

NOT GREAT AT ALL SURE I FIRST OF ALL I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT TO THE COMMITTEE- YEAH ASK FOR THIS TO COME TO THE COMMITTEE I HAD A- CONVERSATION- WITH- PUSH AND CHARLES AND WITH- TROLLS HERE I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR OPINION AS TO HOW IT AFFECTS OUR DOESN'T AFFECT ON WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS- SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO

WELL LET ME SPEAK FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER SERVICE OUT WON'T SPEAK FOR BUSH BUT I'LL BRING FROM US IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THERE WE EXPERIENCE IS NOT IT WAS NICE PULL ON A BANNER OF SOME KIND THAT WE SEE ADVERTISING OF ALL JOBS YOU SEE TRUCKS GOOD THINGS AROUND BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE EVER HAD A CUSTOMER APPROACHES ABOUT CANCELLATION WE'VE EVER INQUIRED ABOUT- AND YOU DON'T TYPICALLY PROBABLY FOR US THAT'S PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH BECAUSE OUR INSIDE THE BUILDING ISNOT AN OPEN AIR

IT WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS OUT AS MUCH THERE ACTUALLY IS A DUMBASS IN THE VAN SO I DON'T THINK IT'S PROBABLY IS APPROPRIATE FOR US FOR SOMEONE'S BEEN THEI MONEY TRYING TO ADVERTISE FOR MAYOR WHAT COUNSEL IS TALKING ABOUT FORCING- BUT THAT REALLY I DON'T KNOW THERE'S MUCH MORE OPINION FROM OUR SIDE ON THIS ONE WE WOULD LOOK MUCH FOR FREE ALSO TRYING TO SELL SOMETHING

AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED NOT KNOWING WHAT THEREFORE THERE COMING OUT OF THIS SORT OF WEIRD I MEAN I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM OR LANDING SO KIND OF A STRANGE THING TO BE ABLE TO REGULATE IF WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO REGULATE RIGHT I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF EVEN IF THERE'S A WAY TO SAY IT

NO MORE THAN AN HOUR BEFORE AN EVENT RIGHT THAT TYPE OF DEAL BUT THEN THERE HAD TO BE SOME PAPERWORK AND SOME- KIND OF LIKE PERMITTING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY YOU TO DO AND THAT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MORE IN THE WEEK IT IS

YEAH IF

IT'S HAPPENING AND ADVERTISING INSTEAD OF TAKING PLACE HERE THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO THOSE WHO ARE THE ALL OF THE COORDINATORS OF THAT EVENT AND FIND OUT WHERE THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE COMING FROM BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WILL ENFORCE IT WE DON'T KNOW YEAH WHOM WE WILL BE ENFORCED AND THAT'S NOT FAIR ONLY BEEN TRYING TO THINK THROUGH THAT MYSELF IF THEY'RE NOT COMING OUT OF IT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TUNE WHICH I'M STILL WAITING FOR THAT ANSWER- THE ONLY TIME I HAVE WAS TO NOTIFY IF WE WERE TO DO THIS TO NOTIFY HE REGIONAL AIRPORTS LIKE THE- PART OF THE WORLD OR- WHOEVER MIGHT BE TO SAY

HEY YOU KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF THE BOOKS THAT SAYS X THAT'S JUST PURELY MY THINKING THE RESPECT TO YOUR HOUSE TO TWO QUESTIONS ONE WHAT IS THIS TOO FOR BLIMPS SO REMEMBER WE PUT ON LAST- BLENDS ARE NOT AFFECTED AND THERE'S ACTUALLYWITH THE MINIMUM THAT WE PUT ON WAS SPECIFICALLY A COUPLE MEMBERS ASKED ME ABOUT THE GOOD YEAR BLIMP- SO THE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN SAYS THAT HAVE THE AIRCRAFT ITSELF IS BRANDED BY THE OWNER IT ALSO TAKES EFFECT OBVIOUSLY LIKE COMMERCIAL AIRLINES IS A SOUTHWEST ON THE TABLE- OBVIOUSLY NONE OF THOSE WOULD BE AFFECTED

PROCESS BEING WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A BLIMP TYPICALLY IT'S INVOLVED IN SOME SORT OF PRODUCTION LIKE LET'S TAKE THE GOOD YEAR BLIMP CAMERA PRODUCTION MANAGER THIS IS NOT DESIGNED ANYWAYS AND REFORM TO THE FACT THAT AND SPECIFICALLY SAYS SECOND THING IN A MUCH BIGGER ISSUE AND I'M NOT A LAWYER AND I DON'T THINK YOU ARE EITHER BUT SUPREME COURT DECISION THAT WAS HANDED DOWN IN THE HAWAII CASE

IT WAS CHALLENGED BY AND I WANT TO SAY WAS MALIBU CALIFORNIA BUT DO NOT QUOTE ME WHERE WAS WHERE THIS WAS BUT IT WAS SOMEWHERE IN CALIFORNIA THE CALIFORNIA STATE COURT SYSTEM OVERRULED AND I JUST HAPPENED A WEEK AGO SO THEN I WAS GOING TO ASK THIS IS A CARD AND SOME OTHERS GAS ONE IN AND I GOT SO CALLED ME

YOUR MALIBU SOMEWHERE AROUND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THE CITY CHALLENGE OR THE CITY BAND THE STATE CAME AND AND OVERTURNED IT SO IT'S SO WONDER IS THE F

UNDER THE FAA IT SAYS LOCAL AND STATE JURISDICTION WHICH IS NOT DIRECTLY BY THE FAA IS LEFT IN THE ROUND YOUR STATE OR MUNICIPAL HANDS RIGHT- IT JUST TO ME TO ME THIS REEKS OF A FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATION WELL I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT IF IT WAS JUST RESTRICTING THE TIMING SO

TO PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS WHICH IS WHAT OUR JOB IS BUT TO COMPLETELY TAKE AWAY THAT VENUE- THAT VEHICLE OF ADVERTISING FOR SOMEONE I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVER REACH AND- SO IS THERE ANY WAY TO PUT AN AMENDMENT ON A WOULD YOU BE AGREEABLE TO THAT TO AMENDING JUST THE TIMING BECAUSE I TOLD- WHEN HE TO DEFER REALLY I THINK IT'S GOING AROUND ON SECOND IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS ME TO CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DO- YEAH THEN WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT THE COMMITTEE DOES FOR

ONE MEETING AND WE CAN WORK WITH LEGAL SEE WE CAN OKAY SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO NUMBER ONE A SECOND LET ME JUST MAKE ONE FINAL POINT IF I MAY BECAUSE OF IT IS COMING OUT OF TUNE OKAY THAT'S FINE BUT LOOK ANYBODY THAT OWNS A BUSINESS

IF GOVERNMENT COMES IN AND THROWS A BLOCK IN FRONT OF US THEY WERE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT ESPECIALLY IF YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF MONEY ALREADY INVESTED IN THAT IS A LIVELY THAT FOR YOU AND SO IF THEY'RE COMING OUT OF SMYRNA ARE THEY GOING TO ELEVEN AND I'VE SEEN HIM TAKE IT OFF AT ELEVEN YEAH THEY CAN THEY CAN FIND HERE PRETTY DARN QUICK

AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE AS WEREN'T LOOKING THROUGH I MEAN I TEND TO AGREE ON THE TIMING ISSUE A LITTLE BIT BETTER- THAN THE OTHER BECAUSE- IF WE IF THEY COME OUT OF LEBANON OR SMART ENOUGH FOR US TO SAY LOOK WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN NASHVILLE YOU CAN'T LET THEM TAKE OFF I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO OUT ON A LIMB HERE SO THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO SAY

THEY'RE GOING TO STOP THEM FROM DOING THAT SO THE ENFORCEMENT PACES ANOTHER BIG ISSUE BECAUSE OF THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO I MEAN LOOK AT THIS ALL THE STUFF ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN CRITICAL PIECE

THAT WE FAIL ON CONSISTENTLY AND SO AS WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH I WOULD I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND AND I KNOW YOU WERE TO GET A MOVE ON A SECOND ALL ALL THE DEFERRAL BUT I WOULD JUST ALSO LIKE THAT INTO THE MIX

THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT EARLIER IN TERMS OF THEM FOR US TO SCRAMBLE MY FIFTEEN MOTIONS ALL OF FLORIDA FOR ONE MEETING AS FROM THE SPONSORS REQUEST MOST OF THE- ALL IN FAVOR ANY POST THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR DO YOU THINK AND THAT CONCLUDES THE MEANING OF THE CONVENTION

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